You keep saying you can find it cheaper. They were small, did not ahve a lot of power, and were not very good looking. . Primerica is a life insurance company that offers two types of term life policies for customers between 18 and 70 years old. I use companies that have policies that are fully guaranteed convertible which is an important feature needed for estate preservation. If you are curious, e-mail me and I will let you know who I represent. They are worthless. They are idiots. But let us think for a minute. Remember they are sales people and sales people get paid on commission, mostly. The numbers are only 2% of the population makes 100k or better. This is something that most companies would love. OK I would ask you to run a quote for me but since you are not an agent you are a CLIENT, you cannot compare with me apples for apples against my products. My schedule was just too busy. Tom says: Again you are assuming that the client pays til the end. The reason I give that analogy is because if you are not licensed in these areas you may not understand the product inside and out. return of Premium Insurance is the way the insurance companies mke more money off their clients. Again, You do not know what you are saying. Could it be that Price only matters in the absence of value. Since you do not know this makes me suspect that you have not investigated the companies your sell. I mentioned about conversion of a term policy and the benefit if considering a life settlement and it seemed to get past you. , And you will always be a salesperson. IN Michaels/Thomas state of California this is worth over $2000. What about if theres a divorce or some requirement for a life policy, can a PFS agent suggest an Annuity and a Return Of Premium Term Policy. But I have already proved you pay more have less. This would be non-captive. That is $1000 dollars. This reminds me of the life settlements for aids persons. Citi does nto pay for offices, staff, or anything else. And if you think Im just talking about sales quotas Im not. remember Price only matters in the Absence of Value. He forgets to say that he was trained by Primerica, and was able to do what he did because of Primerica. Michael, Have you forgotten the 6 rules of Cash value? Along with not telling them their is a better way. If you continue to focus on price, go get your food at 99 cent stores. But after reading your posts, they would ahve to be really stupid not to question your logic, and knowledge. Wrong. (Over 1.5 times) Maybe you need the post again. Then at some point give up an agency leg group for VP promotion. I do not do that. -. Since you focus on the price, you never sell value. If someone does decide to leave PFS I hope its an educated decision. It is getting to be a fulltime job to correct your mistakes. Or you can earn while you learn, get your licenses paid for, and build a client base. Remember you do whats right 100% of the time. Best example is the BMW and YUGO. Hey wait a gosh darn minute Micheal. So why do you need convertability? Mortgage brokers game is to give you a new loan in 2 to 5 years. because this sounds so much like the pamphlet an agent tried to use to show that Primerica was not what it says it was. To give you a better idea of the size and how these college divisions compare, about 187,000 student-athletes compete at the Division 1 level. 1. non-guaranteed level premium beyond 20 years? Why would I lie? In PFS, since you know so much do they start out of the gate with this license? People are so quick to knock MLM toopersonally I think its a great thing. I am not making numbers up. What other company that can do that? I am a strong believer in Do what you love, and the money will follow; especially for my career. . You ought to take a trip down to Borders and take a look at the self-help section. It is not my business but If I was spouting facts as you said you are, why not give you name, unless you have something to hide. Whether it was too hard for you, the idea of helping family was too grueling because of your mindset or your baseshop is crappyby the way -> (if you are there for 6 months plus and no RVP is promoted, no growth is occuring or your RVP is stuck in the same income bracket for the past 2 or more years or not on the leaders bulletinsyour baseshop is a crappy one.) -. I am curious, what do you do when you clients cancel to get a better price. My focus is in the mission and not the commission. They have term, which any competent adviser says to have over cash value. . If you might have missed that, the RVP is responsible for the agents work. I dont. Broken record again, if you concerned about your pocket book more that doing the right thing you are a failure. One cost nothing. I know I should have been the better man, which is not hard to be, but I figured if he was going that way, I can to. It was the reason why Citi wanted Travelers so badly. Michael knows if he did this stuff across the kitchen table he would be laughed out of house. HE CHOSE to make a higher commission of his own familyinstead of doing the best possible practical thing for them.so you wonder why go with Primerica? Think about ityou can re-arrange the deckchairs on the Titanic all you wantthat ships still going down. You know, I had a Mercedes S500 for 9 monthsthat thing was in the shop all the time. Representatives into the Primerica sales force, but I will not be paid for recruiting. Primerica sells two types of term life insurance: Primerica does not offer permanent policies such as whole life insurance or universal life insurance. Primerica is one of its biggest ones. Well Since the last time I checked permanent coverage is usually only carried 5 to 7 years, and term is carried 10 years, which one do you think has a greater chance of being enforce when the even happens? PFSers reading this: arent you tired of being broke? Primerica has been around for 31 years. You say you can do everything that Primerica can do. The reason why I am responding to you is that I keep getting alerts when more posts are up and I cant help but read. Primericas only has guaranteed for 10, 15 and 20-year. We cant even have normal conversations anymore without him trying to convinve me to join this company. Was you also born with a silver spoon in your mouth? I was called by a Primerica Agent with a job opportunity. Ill say it again, not in denial, just want to try it anyway. I am glad you got your license and went you way. The only different was what the company were paying that month, the best. You are comparing the small motel with 10 rooms, to the Ritz Carleton. It is something that Primerica shows families how to get off the Merry go round of debt. They may not sell the cheapest but then again they are worth their time. Im supposed to get my trainer guy in front of 6 families and let him do the talking blah blah. Sell CHEAP products and HIGH COMMISSIONS. I know all those carriers and your figures are available to the public. I guess he is too busy caring about me to bother to call. www.primerica.com, Primerica Life Insurance Company of Canada, American Century Single-Participant 401(k), Franklin Templeton 529 College Savings Plan - New Jersey, American Funds CollegeAmerica 529 Savings Plan - Virginia, Fidelity Advisors 529 Plan - New Hampshire. I am enjoying it so far, things have went well. Im not attacking you company, its the statement. I mean if I die and you made a mistake, what do you say oops? I asked my trainer some of the exact questions you guys are asking. But since you failed to respond to my point, why not cover ever possible scenario for the person. But to say that Primerica is bad because it is not the cheapest is like saying a BMW is not a YUGO. I am not in denial about anything. Could this be something he does not want anyone looking at this Business, to know that they do change and they do adapt to new things. To help support our reporting work, and to continue our ability to provide this content for free to our readers, we receive compensation from the companies that advertise on the Forbes Advisor site. But to sell everything possible to you client is irresponsible. YES..I RESEARCHED FOR SIX MONTH ( a bit irrational but Ill make my point, soon.) . [CDATA[ google_ad_client = "pub-0751974658121276";/* CPF 250x250 in content serp */google_ad_slot = "2853593088";google_ad_width = 250;google_ad_height = 250; // ]]> The reason they can hire anyone is because they have a computer program that does the advising for them. You are not charged a 500 to 6000 dollars to get one that does not even cover the areas needed, like debt. If they have money to invest maybe a ROP is not for them. I AM NOT AN AGENT. Its a bad decision if you dont, but many of our guys who choose not to recruit can easily make over a six figure income working primarily as a sales rep, but thats not what most are about. Only as a courtesy, I do not have to do this. I can understand that most of your clients could care less how you talk and write, but Trying to figure out what you mean is difficult with the mis-statements and mis-quotes. If they dont like it they can always just go back. How do I know, I am licensed in many of these areas and scheduled to take the exam for one in the next 4 weeks. ANd if the leader is not teaching, coaching or mentoring correctly the team will fail. Tom says: Maybe you are right, but Since Primerica is like my company it does not give out its rates, they have a greater chance of being wrong.. It can be pre or post tax. Once an agent understands why they are in the home thats when you can make the big bucks. At least he claims that. In ascending order: Associate Representative Senor Representative District Leader Division Leader Regional Leader Regional Vice President National You are mistaken by many of the things you have posted here. If you think being the cheapest, think of it this way, do you want the best or the cheapest tool to keep you alive? If I want to add prepaid legal I just sign up. Victory Mortgage This is not good for 97% of the people out there and definitely not good for the middle American Family. Ive tried lots of stuff like filling up surveys for hours at a time to only get paid a couple of bucks for the effort. Point: There are 5,000 RVPs and only 4,000 make $50k.. Since their is no such thing, you might want to look it up. You accept this appointment, which may be terminated by Primerica Life without advance notice. The reason why you do not do it is that you do not have all the tools for it. Its funny to read your comments that in order to ADVANCE to the next levels, recruiting is required. You know they can;t be making money on that laptop for 200 dollars, but what they get you on is the warrantee, and the extras. . Sales are sales. . I like Green, while you may like yellow. Ranked #1 Ohio National Life Assurance Corporation 370.24 a month ***Tom in many instances the issue isnt about saving. old, too old to do something better. Well you are wrong here so much let me hit on the answer. Read the article.. yep, I have heard of them, but just didnt seem right for me at the time. Nothing is in stone until we see the contract. Also, you can look this up, more million dollar a year earners at Primerica than any other company in AmericaAnd last but not leastonce you sign up, you can do as much or as little business as you wish..maybe 1 life sale in 3 years if you need extra cashwhateverPoint being whatever you do for a living is NEVER and DOESNt EVER have to be infringed uponYou invest the time YOU deem worthythats all. Compare Primerica With Other Life Insurance Providers. The recruiting aspect comes from the nature of ANY business. Yes PFS wasnt for me. Primerica offers an even playing field for all reps coming in. To advance in commission levels by having recruiting requirements ot having an option of recruiting and the ability to advance from persoanl production? One thing. I doubt you are more than an agent who has lost one of many confrontations with a Primerica agent. OUCH! If this is an indication of how you run your business, pay for the lower deductible on the E adn O insurance, it will save you money in the long run. But you are wrong. Theres a cost for everything. This means that if I have an accident, I pay a little not the whole amount. Again You are proving that you cant read like Michael/Thomas, and James. lol) And as for the keep getting people licensed and blah blah. If they recruit an agent they train the agent. -, Again, Since premiums on term has been going down, I am curious how do you figure it will go? On a personal note I dont have any financial knowledge, but in the few weeks of attending training classes Ive learned many things in a way I can understand them. You cant consider a Life Settlement option. Once my Primerica agent talked to him and tape recorder him he would not repeat one of the negative remarks. Its not an all or nothing thing. feels. When it comes to financial issues, it is personal. Ask your PFS agent if Art williams or Sandy Weill only had term policies. Tom you will never see my termination letter Mr. Since you have never talked to a Full-time person you would know they have more than that. Oh wait, something similar *does* exist. But then again you do not make the same amount of money off those items. I still feel like I made a good choice and have met my goals for income and such. He is wrong. The motto of my church is Honor God. ANd it does not matter what has happened in past, but what is in writting. But let us see. We will never truly know because all we have is your word. Primerica teaches the clients/recruits how both types of insurances work for or against them. Better to be quiet, and thought a fool, or to keep talking and remove all doubt. -. Its about sales. Walk on the lot, listen to how they sell. The fact is that the policy is called Whole Life because the owner pays premiums one way or another for their whole life or until age 98 -100. . Do you know it was illegal for Christians to make any money on the money they loaned to people. The pay out is less than 1% of 1%. -. I am curious, do you think anyone that reads this post would come to you? So for all the PFS people looking at thes post, help out Tom. So what happens when you client cancels when he finds it cheaper with another agent.. Did you notice most of their programs get them where they need to be in 20 years or less? However, it is not free from risk. Here I will say it again since you ahve missed it. So as he was speaking to me, just simply explaining everythingit all made sense and kind of woke me up to the kind of world we are in and the economys shape at the time and how it was getting worse. I have had friends of my family that have to borrow to bury their parents because they were sold some insurance. Attend a business orientation to see if you like the environment. IN my business we sign a non-compete clause. I am your worse nightmare, someone who knows equal to if not more than you do. As someone who hates pressure sales, I liked knowing I didnt have to do that as a rep. I can see it now. =- Meanwhile, qualitative variables also have two specific categories namely nominal and ordinal variables. That is the like kind of price someone puts on a Please state facts as I have, without knowing my carriers please find out who they are before calling them not good companies. The first 1 to 7 years of money you are putting in there is gone for fees. What happens if they do not die? , I am glad you say that, You positions is not for over 98% of the people out there. Yes it cost the person money but since you are under group discounts, you save money. Just like the insurance companies that got away with canceling all those policies in the 70 and 80s when they imploded. Also there is no requirement that nay covert their term paln to a perm. Primerica sells value. It seemed to me at the time that after I sold mutual funds to all of my friends and aquaintences, I was pretty much out of leads. You are going to need the E adn O insuracne badly. That means there is less money for the client. Second, why is captive so bad. Janet Client USing Insurance as a saving device has many problems. You are not just a sales person you helping them make wise decisions with there future. But most people call a sale when are are trying to get someone to buy something. Background check. Dont worry about industry education. If so, It may be something I would consider after I see how it is really ran. ************************************************. I do hope Michael, or Thomas which ever is your name, can atleast live up to his word. I shoudl know I am a business owner. And since He can be trusted since you have made things up, lied in your posts, and seem to always want to do a loaded comparison, when all we have is a word of a person who doesnt use his true name, uses a cell phone so when someone checks him out, they cant. I should not be double or triple charged for using part of something I paid for. Primerica is not a part of Citi bank anymore, they purchased their freedom from them and went public in 2011. -. The A.L. Okay fair is fair not every company is right for everyone. I do hope it is the latter, but since I can only base your performance here, If I saw your posting, I would be leaving you fast. . Not the clients. Not everyone had to come in at the lower level. We all know that where houses are the cheapest place to have space. They need it to grow. They are not as good as the Free one, but I will cover this later. Now if Primerica was such a bad program, why is it 6% of face value to 2% of the premiums? They are there to make sure that the family is not destroyed. Nope it is a sales person cal;ling to try to convert you to CASH VALUE. But wait you get paid on the total premium, so you make more money. And what is it usually, the service. Our company is getting closer to our goal of paying $1 Billion to our sales force. Well first if they beat your current set up (say the way you pay your debt, and through what bank etc) they can actually buy out that loan from whoever youre with, and transfer it to CitiBank or w/e. I see that most people here use the Insurance websites to show the need. -. He is nto the same person that started in Primerica, or he would never needed Primerica. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that they encourage their customers to pay their mortgages twice monthly rather than the traditional monthly payment. Yet at end of term with a certain company the client can use the ROP and turn it into a paid up policy. Other firms offer vastly superior products. I hope they help, especially as an insiders info. . You could be truthful or a liar. But the number one reason is for money. The loophole is getting around the do not call list. They will lose them and more since they are going to be sued. You sell term that is used as a loss leader. Ill wager that 99% of those books have the same theme: You are great! I have the Book The Coach and how they tried to close Primerica down. So, thats exactly what I did. I know the truth. Also if you try to have conversations with peopel of limited means, they will drag you down to there level and beat you with experience being there. manufacture, I would want many to choose from so that I could find one that Since I have not ignored your posting why do you think it is ok to pick and chose what you comment on. Second, like it or not, the opportunity to make more money to bridge the income 2) I resigned from PFS, October 2006, with a clean U5. 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