Thanks. The arch is prominent, not as much as the White's Archease. 3. Its a solid fit. They last forever, but unfortunately they are even stiffer than Meermin shoes (really didnt like those), and take a year or two to wear in. Overall, Meermins are not as good as Carminas because the Meermin shoes seem to be poorly finished when they are compared to the Carminas. Great stitch density and overall construction for a GYW loafer that normally runs 160 euros. I have a pair of black calf oxfords from Morjas and the leather feels rather cheap: it looks like patent leather, only matte not shiny. Had the same experience with a pair of Oxfords from them and asked their sales rep about it. I returned this pair. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. To me, the leather feels similar to Carmina, though possibly even stiffer and more inflexible. The latter is more obvious on the outside of a shoe, and you would certainly get less with Alden for example. But I would be fairly confident that, as with other English makers, you get pretty much exactly what you pay for. Free shipping for many products! To me, they have been 100% worth the money. I guess you get what you pay for but this level of quality for the leather should be mentioned. Meermin shoes are classy shoes that are just so unbelievably functional and cost-effective for the price that they come for. Its a comparable quality level, at a slightly lower price, and uses leather-board heel stiffeners. Simon, I doubt even your wealthier readers walk around every day in 500 plus shoes. Putting that all aside, what do you think is the difference between mid-range makers (e.g. I am just wondering if there is anything else I am missing. In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out, https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/, https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/, https://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk/products/berwick-1707-penny-loafer-9628-dark-brown-suede?variant=19309209288766&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5ZCblaOs6gIVdBPTCh32aAttEAEYASABEgKcGvD_BwE, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/penny-loafers-brown-suede-80113, https://britishshoecompany.co.uk/collections/berwick-1707/products/berwick-mens-derby-leather-lace-up-shoes-5768-k6, https://it.velasca.com/collections/francesine-goodyear. are priced above the equivalent Allen Edmonds, usually at an Alden equivalent price. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. Meermin HOK 8.5E UK: Pretty decent fit with boot socks. However, always be careful about brands that give the impression their leather is the same quality as the top makers. Theres a lot of marketing in this entry-level market: everyone says their shoes are handcrafted, using the best materials.. Unfortunately they offer less Goodyear welted shoes these days. Sadly brands like Edward Green, Lobb and Cleverly are now so beyond my price point that I wonder if theyre now in the realm of diminishing returns? CNES has a larger range of casual shoe styles off the rack but Fugashin is more refined with better hand details and more elegant last shapes. Main point, though, is that C&J, EG etc are different enough in quality to justify their price point in USD. does not really mean quality will be consistent. But its a not a secret that English brands, in general (this for example does not go for the premium brands) use less good leather soles than Spanish and Italian makers of welted shoes, in general. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. Its just not possible.. Berwick uses corrected grain for some of its models (this is what stopped me from buying a pair). France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. I acknowledge I am emotionally attached to AE, it was the first quality brand I could access. Its just a selection of brands, and focus were on cheaper shoes than J. FitZpatrick (although he has a new lower-priced range coming). These shoes are well-appraised by people worldwide for their comfort, style, and proper appearance. Would these look good suits ( navy/grey) and trousers ) blues/grey/green/white etc.) When I complained I was told The second pair is always better ! However, they are less fashionable than Carmina shoes because of the quality of their finishing. The big differentiating factor is not business model, but location of manufacture. But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Nike Memeshots: 11D, narrow in the forefoot but fine after a week or two. Meermin (above) has also become big, mostly in the US. Its hard to say since theyre Chelsea boots, which means breaking in isnt as much of an issue as with lace-up shoes. Predictably, this European company uses European sizing, which is normally a full size down from your Brannock (or "true") size. Besides a very enthusiastic and engaging chap in the Jermyn Street store, whose name I have forgotten, they could do with taking lessons from the brands mentioned in this post. However Id like to venture another (partial) explanation (I have bespoke garments but no bespoke shoes): If the fit on an RTW shoe is good (comfortable all day, no blisters once broken in), is it really worth moving from C&J handgrade to bespoke? Id also echo other comments that a trip to the factory outlet shops in Northampton is well worth it. My girlfriend values their classic oxfords because they are not Goodyear and have soft insoles making them very comfy. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. Carminas actually have better fits than Meermin shoes. on that curve of diminishing returns. Interesting that not many people would know that though. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. Now use your measurement and select the size based on your foot's length (see size chart below). They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. I have given up after several wears as the blisters arent worth it. For a reasonable upcharge, you can select any of their basic designs and pick your own choice of last, leather, and sole options. The C&J hangrade, however, is another story. 8 last 9D: Bad fit. If youre better of with 2 pairs of JC than 1 pair of JL is another question. For Spain level 2: Berwick, Sendra and Meermin. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. Especially compared to other Spanish or Italian shoes, which are also a bit softer than the English., North America: Spier & MacKay, Allen Edmonds, Cobbler Union, John Doe. Here you'll find an extensive sizing chart for Goodyear welted shoes from Skolyx, Yanko and TLB Mallorca. I guess they are really strong in the marketing department indeed. Slightly low instep and volume. In India there is Bridlen (below), which makes a very solid, classic-looking shoe. Oak Street Bootmakers Elston 9.5D: Only tried on, seemed like a good fit, but the boots went back for a return. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. Although classed as subs, most of the time you would be hard pushed to see why. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? Allen Edmonds 65: 10.5D - Okay fit. . Is it really that costly to offer and stock a range of widths/sizes in order to ensure customers can find a comfortable shoe? These insoles are advanced comfort systems that are meant to keep your feet comfy and cozy all day. The upper leather is stiff and prone to hard creases, but also a little thinner than other brands on this list which helps with comfort. Way too narrow all around, last too tapered for my taste. Allen Edmonds 511 9.5D: Seemed like a bad fit or just poorly lasted. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #TobaccoVintageBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #Carmina #ShellCordovanBurdeosHorweenBoots---ALL UB playlist---: ht. Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. I found a pair on sale for about $100 more than those, however, so I figured I'd give them a try. The two brands are roughly the same level of make, with the price difference largely coming down to costs of labour in the UK and Spain. Everything from the finishing, to the thick upper, to the last shape seemed cheap and unattractive. Left foot was okay. It was a bit controversial, I remember some who felt pinpointed argued quite strongly against it. Allen Edmonds is a shoe company and will always be known as such. Ive decided to get a pair of loafers, which Id wear with flannels, chinos, dark denim and (occasionally) shorts. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. I agree they provide an excellent service and are great ambassadors for the brand, which is why I think it is clever of them as a company not to be involved in the complexity of rents, leases, employees etc. I started out with Allen Edmunds because they offer reasonably priced shoes (for Americans) with decent quality. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? Meermin Ron 8E UK: Snug in every direction and noticeably narrow, but wearable with no socks. Now, Id probably look at a boot like the Conniston or Islay. You could specify any combo you wanted (dark navy to black, or dark purple to black, etc.) Think Ill grab a pair of black calf Trickers first, then see how I go. Here's some of my sizing for reference: Meermin RON 11.5 medium Tricker's Bourton 10.5 Tricker's Stow 11 Carmina Xim UNLINED 10.5 Carmina Simpson 11.5 Alden Grant 11.5 This is interesting my experience is the complete opposite. Common Projects Achilles and Bball: 43 are some of my best fitting shoes, especially the Bballs that have a little more toe room. Please dont take offence, I am just dead curious about it. Sure David. Their online interface is very easy to use, and being able to make these selection is so much better than being constrained to the ready-made options a manufacturer has selected. I loved the MTO experience there. The EG just feel better than both ever did straight out of the box, but Im not sure how psychological that is! Grant Stone Alexander 8.5E: hoping these fix the sizing issues.**. NF Bootmaker 43.5: Had these modified for a wider waist as the 44 was a bit long. Very nice article. The quality would probably tell more in the calf than the suede too, so makes sense to do it that way around. You talk a lot about nicer shoes on PS and how they are much nicer. Will post more fit notes when they arrive. New product releases, daily discussion and community building with a common interest in quality footwear. Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. So if you wear for example UK10 in your Meermin we recommend UK9,5 in . More disclosure is called for before putting a disclaimer on others situation. Crocketts uses good quality raw materials, particularly the upper, but the make is a bit simpler. Way too narrow and painful all around, last too tapered for my taste. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. 1757 last 10D: Great roomy fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. Carmina Simpson Chelsea boot - 9.5 UK. https://eu.jmweston.com/en/collections/bottines-homme/products/edouard-chukka-boot-homme-cuir-veau-velours-marron-fonce, Thats certainly a risk with some French brands, but not usually with Weston. In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. You may learn more here. Little bit of heel wiggle room. About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. You have aimed at a balance of smart casual, RTW / MTM / bespoke really useful and affordable; you have catered for all. I made the same experience with Bobbies shoes which ended in an oddyssey of sending shoes back and forth. Meermin offers loafers in simple colours of black, brown, copper, tan, and navy. The fit/finish/materials of my $600 Alden boots is markedly different from my $350 Allen Edmonds Dalton boots. I recently received these is shell and I'm still breaking them in. I think either would be fine. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. Will it be in Spain 1 or Spain 2 in your list? I bought a pair of suede oxfords some months ago and I have found them to be fairly good for their cost. to my eye, both look too large for you based on these pics. You must log in or register to reply here. Carmina shoes come with better finishing than the Meermin shoes. Very comfortable throughout the midfoot. And you could choose a more rounded last, if that was your preference. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Like I said, it wont work for everyone, but might be an option if on a budget. Lets be honest here, what can you realistically expect from a 250 pair of leather shoes made in Europe, when a pair of sneakers produced under questrionable conditions in some third world country already cost as much if not more? Check Availability Meermin Wingtips Review Nobody wants a bad fitting pair of strides but at least they wont cause you physical pain. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. I cant imagine very people are going to buy a sports jacket or merino sweater there. No one wants their sole to wear down quickly, but points like the shaped waist are more aesthetic, and its up to you whether you care about them. I have to say that influencers, like Andreas Weinas, who keep plugging those kinds of brands using superlative language bear some of the responsibility for misleading people. Crocketts and Carmina are in there largely for context, as mentioned. I spoke to folks at Carmina and got somewhat mixed opinions, the wrench in the equation being size variances on the lasts for both unlined and shell materials. Do you know what thats down to? With that said, the number of good bespoke shoemakers that will make sure to both deliver good fitting and very well-made shoes is still very high in the world. Initially I tried 9E because many people recommend 1/2 size down and 1 width up for this last. 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. Never felt loose. The Jermyn Street stores are run by a franchisee. Interesting to hear you sized up for Simpson when based on your description above you Could probably have stayed on an 8. Dress socks. Carmina shoes are more comfortable, flexible, and relaxing than the Meermins. The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. RM Williams Comfort Craftsman: 9.5G AUS - Great fit. Its a bit funny though that you state I do arbitrary claims, when you yourself lift the examples you do, without backing it up with anything. It is something that is destroying the reputation not only for these brands but for bespoke shoes in general. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Great fit all around. Free shipping for many products! 511 last 10D: Bad fit. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. Thanks for the response. I used DT cushioned boot socks at the time. And the soles are much more flexible too, more similar to a Blake stitched shoe than a Goodyear welted one. Although the vast majority of my formal clothes over the last 40+ years have been bespoke, I have never seen or felt the need to go bespoke on shoes. With Meermins, you get a refined-classy style that is set to rule the modern scene. Both these shoes are true to size, but Carminas are however more fitting and properly sized than the Meermin shoes. Boot socks. Truman P-79 9D: Good fit, was snug the first day with boot socks and now comfortable with boot socks. Their leather in general is terrible, even after wearing the shoe almost a year on a regular basis (hoping it will get softer), it keeps being stiff and uncomfortable. Chunky, comfortable, and with nice make but the suede itself is nothing special, certainly worse than Crownhill in the same price range. In the end I find both brands run small and you rather need half a size or for Bobbies an entire size larger than what you would have with Santoni for example. Altra Lone Peak 3.5: 12D, weirdly enough. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. Kenton 10D: Great roomy fit for boots with thick/medium socks; good snug fit for LWB with thin socks/sockless. Thats a point worth emphasising. Snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes significant bowing. High Top vs Low Top Boxing Shoes: Which Is Best for You? Down by half. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. They used to offer calf leather and Goodyear welting at incredible prices though the soles would wear quickly and their shops recommended Topy. 3. Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. I realise this may seem like a simple choice, and maybe thats exactly what youll say, but Im only 25 years old and money is definitely a consideration. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. Im going to give Cheaney (great value in the sales) a try instead. So much so, that one of the heels fell off during normal use. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, This is an example of what a good comment looks like. Im a student in Sweden and I have worn a couple of the brands mentioned in the article (and in the comment section) during the last couple of years. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. An interesting read. Hello Simon, it would be interesting to have an additional piece about brands a tier above those, e.g. The comment is only in reference to leather. A lot of influencers will also swear that it is box calf, which goes a long way to show either their incompetence or lack of integrity. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. I have four pairs from them that cover all my needs and they are definitely as good as John Lobb who charge you over twice the price. Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. Are morjas using leather or plastic heel stiffeners? Carmina shoes are more fashionable and elegant than the Meermin shoes. Good arch support, toe box is low, but not too low, and just an all around comfy fit from day 1. I have owned shoes from most of the English brands, and 5-10 Spanish brands and 5-10 Italian brands, and its a quite clear difference (but again, there are exceptions in both directions. Lovely article! Sounds like a nice choice of shoes. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Thanks, Simon, Ive read those already. Many thanks, Edward Green)? Assuming that none have cracks or discolorations, are there significant differences in how different grades of suede used for shoes wear over time? AE has excellent customer service to this day. Overall, Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. So my true size is an 11.5, in most American boots I'm an 11, and all my boots with European sizing (like Tricker's) are a 10.5. Normal arch/instep. Matty: Late reply, but noticed your comment just now. How to measure your feet. Does anyone know if English makers tend to have wider heels than their Spanish (or other continental counterparts). For what its worth Joshua, (with plenty of experience of both) I wouldnt necessarily consider C&J a step up from Trickers. Of course choice is more limited, and its more pot luck, but who doesnt love a bargain? Some of the best dress shoes that you can get with your money today are the Carminas and the Meermins. I appreciate that there are differences, I just care more about some differences than others. I could fully close the lacing with the shoes still being a little loose with 9E. Roomy toe box, heel is snug and hugs my foot all around. Alden Aberdeen 9.5D: Great fit. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. Were not aiming to cover the whole market here, by a long way the focus is on cheaper shoes that we would never normally cover on Permanent Style, really below 300. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. Thursday Vanguard 9.5D: Toe box is a bit tapered for my liking, but overall fit is so-so. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. TLB Artista full review here Parkhurst 602 Last 9D: Fit well off the bat, little to no break-in. Most of my pairs are 9E, which need thicker socks to fit really well (E is the standard Alden width at most European retailers). Ive around 20 pairs of Carmina, 2 of C&J mainline and a dozen of C&J hangrade. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Footslide.com is a full-time participant of the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, 2023 Footslide.com | All Rights Reserved. They had also banned any online store to ship them out to Canada. Really appreciate the advice. I have really been liking many of your posts for this season. Worn with normal dress socks. And sorry for the long post, whenever I come across such I wonder whether the guy is a bit insane, but then, passion, what? I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. I could wear these with my really thick winter socks if I wanted to. The main difference is that cheaper brands use split suede, where the hides have been split into two layers (sometimes even three, but thats mainly used for even cheaper shoes), while more expensive brands use reverse calf suede (where you have the full hide, and the flesh side is sanded). Cork-Injected Midsoles (Extra Comfortable). Noel it is precisely the point you make that has been behind my long standing decision to stay with C&J over all these years. I suspect the 1035 in 9.5 would fit me perfectly. They have done a small amount of RTW for a while, its just enlarged recently. (Vibergs cxl is different to Thursday boots cxl.). A couple of years ago, I returned two pairs of Oxfords that needed resoling after less than ten wears each. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. Ive mostly moved to bespoke now due to my weird feet, but I do own a pair of Morjas suede chukkas that I use in bad weather. Throughout this commentary from Jesper, its worth keeping in mind that some of the points are objective, some more subjective. in 9D my feet can slide right out. @ Matty, if your initial post was relatively friendly and good natured Im sure you would have gotten a similar reply. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. All one had to do is insert a sole liner, of wear thicker socks. 4 3 3 comments Best Add a Comment hjordan28141 2 yr. ago Additionally the soles of Cheaney arent as hard wearing either, I have needed more frequent resoles. Interesting. You get slightly better quality with Carmina at a cheaper price. They use plastic heel stiffeners, and the make is solid and English - not that refined. However to their credit, Loakes customer service was excellent. By far the highest quality of any of the brands on this list (and in my opinion, the most elegant lasts). 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